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Dec 10, 2013 10:00am PST
. jimmy carter had unique relationships with nelson mandela. barack obama had an important personal connection, also the connection, charlene was talking about that. george w. bush was really transformed in many ways, the pepfar agreement, all the work he's done since and repeated trips to tanzania. >> even people who didn't like george w. bush's politics or wars, whatever, have to give him credit for the pepfar program which literally saved millions of lives especially in southern africa providing retro viral drugs for aids to people who otherwise would not have had this lifesaving treatment. it's an astonishing accomplishment and recognized and appreciated across the continent where he's probably more popular than he is anywhere in the world. >> i was going to say um becki, mandela's successor has a reaction area view that aids somehow was not the treatment and so banned retro viral drugs. it was mandela and mandela foundation that stepped in and pepfar and george w. bush that filled the gap. >> that's right. remember, ten years ago epicenter of the aids epidemic, demographic and
MSNBC
Dec 9, 2013 10:00am PST
mandela. also author to 'n'. senior adviser to president obama for u.s. institute for peace. thank you very much. you've seen all of this history and you were there on the ground during this tumultuous period. president bush 41, as we just showed, quickly moved beyond the shadow of the early reagan years where president reagan vetoed legislation and that veto over with. the state department secretary of state schultz and others, former senate foreign relations chairman dick lugar were pushing very strongly for a different policy. >> they were. they knew the veto was a mistake. right after that secretary schultz moved to redescribe anc not as terrorist organization and open up contacts with the group in osaka. >> you were on the ground when he came out -- >> after he came out. >> moved into the negotiations which were critical. >> went up and down in 1992, had a break in the negotiations, a serious break over violence. the two presidents, the two leaders, nelson mandela and f.w. de klerk came together, one of the things they agreed, which is a lesson for other peace processes that there
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